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EM: How did you start painting? Did you grow up in a creative environment?
My mom painted when I was a little boy. She would
always bring me new tools to work with. I mostly drew
as a child. Acrylic was the first paint that was
available to me. I grew up with a father that was into
restoring old cars (50's and 60's); he always had a
garage in the back yard. My mom painted a little bit
and had neighborhood art shows with her friends when I
was about 8-9 yrs. Drawing was just something I did. I
didn't have grand plan when I was a child that I was
going to be a painter; although, in the back of my
mind I wished I could. My mother enrolled my sister
and I in paintings classes when I was 10, I hated it.
The instructor demanded that I use a specific color
but I wanted to use purple instead of green. I argued
with him, with my sister next to me telling me just do
as he says. I said no, how could you call this art
class if you're going to tell me what colors to use?
That was the beginning.
EM: You grew up in Madera, California; how has growing up in a small town influenced your work?
That's a good question. I guess it's kept the work
humble, a bit more down to earth. I know it's forced
me to push myself; I was so uninspired when I lived
there. All I wanted to do was skate with friends,
drink, smoke and be a kid. It was really hard because
I didn't have the encouragement or inspiration that
most people need. I thought for sure I was going to be
a mechanic; I took woodshop classes and auto shop
classes in high school, and one art class my first
year. There wasn't the encouragement that was needed,
I was given the opportunity to go to San Francisco for
art school and I took it. I was 18 yrs old in summer
1996 when I started. I learned, argued and learned
more and met amazing people. I studied illustration
but by the end focused on my own paintings.
EM: Now that you are living in Brooklyn, NY, how has that changed?
It has been more of an evolution. I still have all the
other things that influence me but New York is full of
amazing adventure and opportunity, almost too much;
the people I've met and art work I've seen add to my
evolution. The move to NY has made me raise my
standards.
EM: Where do your inspirations for your painting come from? You often paint animals, especially apes, in your paintings: How do you choose your subjects?
Life interests me, these ape are us; just something
that I've always been fascinated with. They like it
when I bring them to life. We talk, hang out, and
listen to music in the studio. I find apes reference
anywhere I can, books, TV, Internet, photos, anywhere.
I'm always looking for new stuff to study.
EM: Your paintings are quite moving, almost dark and moody. Where do you think those sensibilities in your paintings come from?
Dark and moody? Yea, that's a good way to put it. I
think they come from my life experiences. Life isn't
always bright. I don't want to sound dark and
distorted but we, as humans, we struggle to stay
afloat; we grow together; and die alone. We live in
blankness. Some of my apes are in transit. They are
moving forward and going out to get to the destination
spot, their dream, and their search for whatever. Some
don't even know , they feel like they need to get it.
I need to thank them for letting me paint them the way
I do.
EM: Do you enjoy talking about your work, dissecting and interpreting its meaning, or do you let your viewers interpret as they see and feel it?
I want to paint and that is what I'm doing. I'm not
trying to tell a story or even discover anything. I
want the viewer to interpret. I really don't have a
solid statement about my work because it's always
changing although, I do like to talk about it. I feel
it gets me closer to finding a meaning; we strive to
find ourselves in something we do, take and own. I'm
happy that I've found something that I can own, live
up to, and really call it mine. We're defined by the
choices we make and things we do. I want to create for
people and most of all for myself.
EM: You also paint private and public commission art. How do you balance between your client's needs/expectations and your artistic freedom? Have you ever been frustrated with their demands?
Frustrated yes, when I know it shouldn't be as hard as
it is to get it right to please them. They keep coming
back with changes. I like to work for myself. I need
artistic freedom. I would hope that a client would
come to you because of your style.
EM: How do you compromise?
I compromise when I have rent to pay. No, really I try
to do what needs to get done for each specific job.
EM: What has NY offered you in terms of the art community? Do you think an artist needs to belong to a community, in order to be successful?
Yes. An artist needs community. Everyone's success
level must be different so, I would say yes and no.
For me, yes because I couldn't do all that I'm doing
without my friends and people that I've met. One
person can only do so much; I think we need people.
EM: How did you start making those lovely hand painting stenciled hats? Do you have any plan to sell them in the near future besides NY and Tokyo?
Less than a year ago a friend gave me a mesh cap that
I wore for a bit, and then had the idea that I should
paint on it myself, so I pulled out a can of spray
paint and covered the front, letting the paint over
spray, tried to keep it as tight as possible without
masking, then once the foam was covered with about
four coats of green I then took out the tape and
created a perfect drip design over the green. From
then on people wanted them, so I bought blanks and
started painting on them. That was the beginning of a
small business that is growing. I'm working on shirts
and other stuff. It's helped to feed the painting, to
promote the website, the art work, the craft and
stuff. I have over 500 hats out now. They sell at
Union in NYC. Shine in Hong Kong has a few caps.
Kokon Tozai placed an order for their store in Paris.
i have 483 hats going to japan with 68 and Brother
inc.for their spring/summer collections. I have caps
in London and NY in a showroom called mlcorp (Mandi
Lennard Corporation) It's a very well respected
fashion pr firm. I'm working with both offices; they
represent amazing clients like Inner City Raiders vs.
Deth Killers of Bushwick, House of Jazz, Eley
Kishimoto, Karen Walker, Stussy and others.
EM: What are you working on right now? Tell us about your upcoming/ongoing projects.
Well I'm working on a show for 111 Minna Gallery in
San Francisco in June and in the fall, hopefully
something in London. I'm working on an Ecko' design
for fall 03'. There are all sorts of things gelling.
See Joel's work at www.duganstudio.com
Copyright © 2003 Evil Monito; Artwork credit © Joel Dugan
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